Dragon Con Harasment Policy

[next-friday.livejournal.com]

What is Dragon*Con's stand on Scalzi's Convention Harassment Policy?

"We reserve the right to ask you to leave the convention
and refuse to refund your membership money
if you are behaving - in technical terms - like a jerk."  <- this is not reassuring.

Comments

[trybutez.livejournal.com]

You know, you're right. I mean, about my tone... I stand by my points, but you're right I could have been nicer, softened it, phrased it better, whatever. I was in a bad mood yesterday, and I took it out on the internets. I was impatient, and wanted to get my point out as fast as possible. So, for my tone, and brusqueness, I do sincerely apologize. And admit you're right about me being able to be nicer, more polite, and still get my tone across- which I failed to do.

That said, I totally agree with you that so long as there's no wait for elevators, if the hotel doesn't have a problem with people riding in them, then neither should DC security.

Regarding Fiver, what do I do or don't know is only what you've mentioned. You brought this person up in your post,and thus made them fair game, and the only details I have available are those you mentioned- that Fiver was upset that (she?) couldn't throw paper off the tenth floor. So, no, acting on that knowledge alone, I'm not making an ass out myself. I can only respond with the knowledge I have available to the points made. Any forthcoming details might change my opinion- but doubtful. It is simply wrong to throw things off of high places.

And for the same logic, you would have no reason to feel like an ass if details came out that I, or someone I cared about, was seriously hurt by some one throwing something off a high place. The only purpose of first denying that information, and then giving it after a person challenges it, is to make them feel bad, or manipulate the situation or, like you said, try and paint someone as an ass. I don't expect you to feel that way because you don't know every detail about my life, like who may or may not be permanently in a wheel chair because of some stunt like that. You shouldn't. You didn't know. You couldn't. And the same applies to me.

You're insinuating like crazy that Fiver is a person that needs protection and caring for... and is very loved. I get that impression from the emotion that your posts are full of, and in that respect, this Fiver is a very lucky person. I would ask you please, if you sincerely care for her, to not put her in positions, or explain to her in advance, why something like tossing paper or objects off high balconies isn't acceptable. Not doing so is your failing, and not security's. I'm sorry Fiver was upset, but ask yourself how that could have best been avoided? By DC security harshly telling you all something was wrong that I'll bet you already knew.... or you and Fiver's friends and family, who understand her best, handling the situation better from the beginning so that maybe it never even had to happen?

I don't know if this reply comes across any better than my first. Online commentary is so difficult in lacking tone and modulation. I sincerely hope it does, but I also want to get my point across, and sometimes that does mean being a little tough. I just hope that it wasn't as bad as the first one.

[mrcell.livejournal.com]

While I don't know Fiver, I do know who she is. She appeared in the documentary "Four Days at Dragon*Con". She also is the subject of this post on the DCTV web site:
http://web.dragoncontv.com/general/1177/

I agree that the security guard was out of line in being so harsh as to make her cry.