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Issues with Froggy Photos
Anybody else having issues communicating with Froggy's Photos?
I emailed them trying to get the status of my .jpg picture files that I paid for, but they have hot replied to my emails.
I emailed them trying to get the status of my .jpg picture files that I paid for, but they have hot replied to my emails.
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On the subject of guest giving professional photo-ops or the Walk of Fame tables. (and other such 'contract' talks i've been seeing)
My Thoughts & Opinions...
Dragon*Con does not pay a guest to attend the weekend. So saying that a guest is under contract is bunk. (I've been told this so often I can't even count how many times now)
They are invited to join the party, they are offered maybe a room or transportation, and sometimes both. (depending on how high profile that guest is in any given year)
I don't believe there is any type of contract, this is why we often see last minute cancellations (e.g. Edward James Olmos this year), and last minute additions (e.g. William Shatner this year) right up till doors open for registration.
The only way a guest actually makes any money at Dragon*Con is to have people buy their photos/autographs/books/comics/cds.
The guest even supply their own head shots and such. (some have better selections than others) LOL
The 'professional' photo-ops are a side thing that the guests agree to do, on their own. I'm sure for a per-photo fee provided by Froggy, or whoever the photo's are taken by. Or maybe a flat fee per session. But honestly I'd think it was more of a 'per-photo' type deal, as it would probably make the guest more money in the end.
I'm not sure how the pricing is decided on either, but I do know that Patrick Stewart is not a 'people' person, in that he doesn't like others touching him. So he had an outrageous price tag slapped on his Photo-Op sessions. A $200.00 price tag WILL thin the hoards of fans who'd love to have a picture with him. (it made me decide I only HAD to have his autograph and nothing more) ;o) Other guests where mostly reasonably priced. (unlike the raping of fans that Creation tends to do at their conventions, IMHO)
Since some (not all) of the guests agreed to have photo-ops with Froggy or another photographer, they now would like to rake in all the cash those photo-ops will provide. If they give away free photo's at the Walk of Fame tables, it not only takes money out of their pockets, it takes up time.
Anyhoo, those are my thoughts & opinions on why things are the way they are. I do not work for Dragon*Con nor any of the guests who attend. (Though I have worked some smaller fan-run cons in the past)
contract
You have prefaced your comments with "My Thoughts and Opinions" but you end with "I do not work for Dragon*Con". So, is it a fact there are no contracts or just your opinion? What do you consider a contract? I think if there's any exchange of services, there has to be a contract, even if it's "if you come, we'll give you a room and pay for your flight".
Just because there are last minute cancellations, doesn't mean there are no contracts. It could be written into the contract that the guest has an option for a last minute cancellation because of work or other commitments.
In any case, when I talk about contracts, I don't mean between the guest and D*C. I'm talking about any deals the guest and their management make with the photographers. The photographers are vendors. There must be some contract between the guest and the photographers so each party knows what each of them will make per photo or if the guest gets a flat fee for time spent taking photos.
Re: contract
Dragon*Con does not control who allows for photos at tables and who agrees to set up professional photo-ops with vendors offering them up. I agree with you, there is some sort of agreement/contract between guest & photographer.
I don't like the cattle-call that happens with the pro photo-ops, but I do enjoy the opportunity (if funds allow) for a chance to actually get a pic with my fav actors.
So I pay the $60 to get to wrap my arm around Kate Mulgrew's waist for 5 seconds and get photo proof that it happened. Or I refuse to pay $200 for a pic with Patrick Stewart, and just give him $60 to sign one of his head shot pics. I still get the 5 seconds with him, and I still have proof it happened. ;o)